I can well understand that the level of criticism is uncomfortable for developers but the answer is not to stifle that criticism but rather to fix the shortcomings. That is relatively simple.
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Perhaps thereās been a misunderstanding about what Iām suggesting. It seems that some of the questions and concerns being raised are ones weāve already acknowledged in this thread and are actively addressing. Repeating the same points might unintentionally overshadow previous responses and make it harder to track the progress being made.
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Nope. There is no misunderstanding. You are trying to stifle criticism, more particularly the volume of that criticism. Thus far we have seen no will or attempt to address the issues raised.
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Thereās been a small attempt, I would suggest, with the recent ability to now choose the two letters shown in the icon (via account name), and its colour. More adjustments are promised.
I suspect that people feel that something that worked reasonably well (account switching) has been replaced by something that didnāt work at all, and small adjustments to that donāt really explain why the switch was made, nor do they make things as good as they used to be.
I donāt know the thinking behind the switch, although Iāve seen comments that suggest that the old method didnāt suit everyone. Clearly the new method currently suits even less.
For me, I much preferred the old method, but I was living with the newer, fixed character, method, with 5 accounts, 4 of them on the same domain (so same chars). The recent ability to adjust makes that a bit nicer, and I can live more easily with that, but itās still far from as simple as the old method.
But I donāt see it as something worth screaming about; itās usable. lifeās too short.
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Finishing the image loader work and other improvements will be a little more involved.
Simply go back to the portion of the pre-v8 code that displayed images for each account.
There is no need to reinvent a wheel. This could be fixed quickly and easily.
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Going back would be a disaster. The code of the navigation drawer was quite a mess. In order to not eat up a significant part of the development time just to work around issues caused by the old navigation drawer, the drawer had to be rewritten from scratch. ājust go backā is not an option. The only option is to go forward to improve the current implementation, like to re-add support for account pictures. (Note that the old way to set account pictures through your contacts list is not really a good option because it regularly confused users. It needs to be redesigned to something that users understand)
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It appears that the major focus at the moment is making the donation page more attractive. UI deficiencies have a lesser priority.
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Thatās wrong. You can look at the git history to see that most time is currently spent on bug fixing and general things like store metadata, translations, etc: Commits Ā· thunderbird/thunderbird-android Ā· GitHub
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Unfortunately that is not born out in the beta releases, but hey money is the key.
Even if it was about money, what are you trying to achieve here by claiming this again and again? If you donāt like the app, just go and look for another one.
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I donāt use the app. I went to Fairemail long ago. I find the forum entertaining due to its lack of honesty in dealing with users that have been duped. Iāve hoped also that there might be a reversal at some point and commonsense might prevail. But alas no.
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Since this thread no longer seems to be about the original issue, but whatever bothers people right then, I feel itās okay to add a completely off-topic and non-constructive comment of my own.
Sometimes Iām annoyed by people who think itās okay to insult the creator(s) of a thing they are using. Doubly so, if they actually get the thing for free without doing anything in return.
You donāt like the thing? Fine, use another thing. You used to like it, but after the thing was updated/changed you donāt anymore? You could just move on to another thing. But the creator(s) are probably interested in making the thing work for you. So you could describe why you liked the thing better before and what makes the thing harder or less pleasant to use now. You could also make a suggestion on what you believe would improve your use of the thing. All of that can be done without insulting the creator(s). After all, itās very unlikely they made the change to specifically make your life harder. Youāre probably not mortal enemies. The creator(s) likely know nothing about you personally. But on the other hand, maybe you are their enemy. Surely they made the change because they wanted to make your life as miserable as possible. Probably best to work under that assumption. Write one or several dozen nasty comments in the creator(s) public forum. Surely that will make them take you seriously and meet your demands immediately. Not yet? Well, I guess just one more comment will do the trick.
Itās really not that hard to express dissatisfaction and disappointment without being obnoxious. Most people manage to do this just fine. If youāre not one of those people, maybe itās time to explore why not (in your mind, not in a comment to a public forum).
Another, totally unrelated thought: I wonder why the people involved in the development of K-9 Mail and Thunderbird rarely participate in forum discussions. Must be an odd bunch of people.
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Greetings from the Thunderbird Community Manager. I would rather be here under different circumstances. The reason I am posting is well stated by the OP [quote=āC-h, post:25, topic:11044ā]
I do not at all understand the angry and even insulting messages. Therefore, even if I am not happy at all with the latest user interface change and it might make me stop using the software completely I do not support bashing contributors
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There have been many posts which
a) have strayed from the original purpose of the OPās helpful feedback
b) by this point monopolized the majority of activity, which is at best impolite to C-h,
c) repeat what has already been stated, which amounts to badgering
I could go on, but the point is this isnāt healthy or productive for the k-9 community, and must not continue. Please take responsibility such that posts are thoughtful and help move the product forward. And if you have an issue that is unrelated to the original post, please do make a new topic.
Best to all.
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Hello Mira. This is Wayne.
Are you aware several of your posts were flagged for content? This did not come from any admins, but users active in the forum.
Iām on android and v8.1 and no I do not.
Iām not Mira.
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On December 4, 2024 6:47:23 PM PST, Wayne Mery via K-9 Mail Forum noreply@forum.k9mail.app wrote:
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Hello Mira. This is Wayne.
Are you aware several of your posts were flagged for content? This did not come from any admins, but users active in the forum.
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Sorry about that. Thanks for letting me know
Strange the way this works.
Sorry, I thought I mentioned in the earlier post that you get that control with 9.0b1
Erm ā¦ why did I get email notifications about the post in the screenshot and the replies to it? According to the screenshot that was a āpersonal messageā not even directed at me, so what is going on here? 
And I just noticed that this thread notification type was set to āWatchingā which I KNOW I never set ā¦ gremlins at work?
