Dont know where you are going with this.
I am using Gmail app because it works . People get my emails .
I like k9 better and I had a month of people not getting my emails for several accounts.
It is great that this forum exists, and others had the same issue, otherwise I would never know why no one responded to my emails, because they didn’t get them. I knew that the k9 update changed things .
Since I am a software.guy I can go in and grep for the HELO field make a change in IPAddress, to the open source.code after learning the build environment , but I would think that after 30 days an active maintainer would take the initiative. But maybe this project is stalled. I don’t know.
Gmail app works and as of yesterday k9 didn’t. Someday k9 might work again. But gotta tell you, who knows what will break in the future and how long it will take for a fix.
How can I get 5.6 and will the backdate ruin the database and settings.?
“but I would think that after 30 days an active maintainer would take the initiative”
If you read the whole thread, you’ll see that there is a philosophic reason why this was broken by the maintainers in the first place, and a strange fervour round why it won’t be fixed back to working again.
“But maybe this project is stalled. I don’t know.”
… Only conceptually.
Back in the message thread, I think there is still a link to where a 5.6 side-loadable APK can be found in this project archives.
You can find 5.6 on apkpure. Before uninstalling k9, save the settings. Then, download the apk of 5.6 from apkpure and install it - it will never be updated, since it does not come from the Playstore. After opening of 5.6, you can restore the settings. You have only to give the password of each account.
F-droid will then upgrade your app, except if you specifie “no upgrades”. But then, other apps that you have downloaded fro F-droid will also be let without upgrades.
As indicated in one of the posts above, I am one of those folks who has been a long-time user, and just happened to stumble upon this forum thread after recently discovering this same problem with HostGator.
After a read through the thread, it seems that the best interim solution (at least for me) will be either reverting to 5.6 or trying the Open Mail 5.6 K9 fork.
What are the opinions of the forum members with regard to one or the other of these options… reverting to 5.6 (apk from GitHub) or installing Open Mail?
Any feedback/guidance would be greatly appreciated.
I’ve used the K9 5.6* from the project’s development archive, but ended up moving on to the Open Mail 5.6 K9 fork, as the developer did do a few things on it to stabilise things.
I’ve communicated with the developer of the Open Mail 5.6 K9 fork.
He seems a really decent guy, kind hearted even.
He says that he does not intend to do anything to the Open Mail 5.6 K9 fork that would destabilise anything, in fact he intends at the moment to keep it unchanged as he is very busy with other things.
I think while using it, I have had to refresh/restore the downloaded emails occasionally, but my phone’s sdcard is getting full, so what that is indicative of I can not say for sure.
(An sdcard getting full, is a known issue with a number of other apps anyway.)
But, if you’re using IMAP or like, from time to time you could do a forced refresh (by pulling your finger down from the top of the folder’s listed email window) of Sent emails, and any other important mail folder you have created through your mail application on your PC or bigger device.
(This vintage of K9 and forks does not let you create new IMAP folders on your phone etc.)
— That is one way of making sure you’ve equalised with the same mail server folder.
Hi PaulNormanNZ and jef… thank you kindly for your input. It sounds like Open Mail may be the way to go while we wait-out any possible fix to 5.8.x, should any fix actually be forthcoming.
It may be relevant to this discussion that HostGator and Bluehost (along with dozens of other webhosts) are owned by the same company, until recently known as Endurance International Group, merged in August with the Network Solutions/Web.com companies and now known as Newfold Digital.
It’s my understanding that when hosting companies are purchased by this megacorporation, their customers are moved to the parent company’s servers, so potentially anyone whose mail is hosted by a Newfold Digital company may be facing the same mail server configuration and therefore the same issue. There is a list of Newfold companies here (the blog post is old, but he keeps the list updated):
I’m no advocate of these companies (in fact, I advise my clients to avoid them like the plague), but their customers combined represent an enormous number of users. Even if they are in the wrong (which would be consistent with their MANY other performance and support issues), the K9 Mail developer may wish to reconsider his position due to the very large number of users who may be impacted, and unaware of it. Don’t think of it as knuckling under, think of it as supporting users who have horrible hosts and need all the help they can get.
Hello All,
I can confirm this very weird anomaly.
I have done the following:
two accounts one on bleuhost, another on gmail.
When sent from bluehost account to gmail, the email appears in the sent folder EVEN on the bluehost server. However, it never makes to the gmail inbox.
However, with all other servers I use, including gmail, everything is normal.
Finally, using other clients for android, it works fine.
My conclusion is that whatever it is it should be worked out between k9mail and bluehost.
Not sure if you figured out a K9 work around for the localhost ip issue, but it’s not hard to fix.
I always ask people in pissing contests, do you want to be right or effective?
Generally you want to be both, however, being effective general out weighs being right when it comes to managing people or programs. You get a better results.
I get the reason for the change to protect one’s IP address. I don’t agree with the use of 127.0.0.1, also known as loopback address. And it is suspicious when you have a request, authenticated or not, coming in with a non-routable address.
See RFC 1122 INTERNET LAYER October 1989
3.2.1.3
(g) { 127, <any> }
Internal host loopback address. Addresses of this form
MUST NOT appear outside a host.
Easy fix. Decompile apk.
Locate & Open the file - SmtpTransport.smali in a text editor
Change 127.0.0.1 (located near line 364) to a private network IP address, such as 192.168.1.10
Save SmtpTransport.smali
Compile apk
Install on device - your done.
Be sure to disable automatic updates for K9 app.
Probably still beyond the skill and/or determination of myself and I suspect the vast majority of users, not to mention only a few will ever reach this post.
Developer, if you’re reading this, please make the fix, or put an option for it in the Send settings.
